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Limited release of Data Structure Report


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  ¤ Jill Byrnes
  ¤ Geoff Tully
  ¤ Terry Erbs
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  ¤ Barbara Abt


Map printed on Page 5 of the Mercury (Hobart, Tasmania) on Monday, 24 July 1916. Australian Newspaper beta citation: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1041253.


Translation (from Google)


The Somme Offensive
  ¤ 1916 Somme Map
  ¤ British Plan 1 July 1916
  ¤ Battle of the Somme (Wikipedia)
  ¤ What really happened at Fromelles
  ¤ Battle Lines Drawn


  ¤ Fromelles DiG - Apology
  ¤ SBS Television
  ¤ Darlow Smithson Productions
  ¤ Deutsches Generalkonsulat Melbourne
  ¤ State Library of Victoria
  ¤ The Australian Greens
  ¤ Liberal Party of Australia
  ¤ New Zealand Government
  ¤ British All-Party Parliamentary War Graves & Battlefields Heritage Group
  ¤ The West Australian
  ¤ Media@ FromellesDiscussionGroup.com
  ¤ Daily Liberal
  ¤ News Update - February 2010
  ¤ Bavarian Central State Archives
  ¤ Poster : AIF in the Great War (PDF)
  ¤ MIA recovery unit established by Army
  ¤ US links to the battle of Fleurbaix
  ¤ Request to post interview with Lambis Englezos

Translation (from Google)

'This item is from The First World War Poetry Digital Archive, University of Oxford (www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ww1lit); © [Copyright notice]'.

Poem: Lest we Forget

Written in 1925 by Abraham Cole, this poem was created at Cleeve Hill, Gloucestershire, England. Abraham lost two sons, Reginald and Norman, both of whom died during World War One while serving in the military. Reginald in the Gloucestershire Regiment in 1915, and also tragically Norman in the Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry, in 1916. [Part of a collection of photos and memorabilia contributed to the archive for Mrs Gill Porter and Mr Tony Carr on behalf of their father, Charles W. Carr who was a nephew of the Author].

Having become aware the Pheasant Wood Fromelles-Data Structure Report had been completed and released by the Commonwealth Government, Fromelles Discussion Group Convenor/Administrator, Grant Triffett e-mailed The Hon. Warren Snowdon MP, Minister for Defence Science and Personnel, requesting hard copies of the publication for circulation among affiliates, friends and supporters in order to acquaint them with GUARD’s latest evaluation of the burial pits. Dated: 16 December 2008-10:08:39 PM, this e-mail was followed by a second at 10:33:35 PM to Nick Warner, Secretary of Defence, Office of the Secretary, Department of Defence, seeking clarification of the news. Previous experience with such officials had suggested we not expect a prompt reply from the Minister responsible for overseeing the limited excavation that was undertaken by GUARD.

To his credit The Hon. Warren Snowdon MP organized a reply but extraordinarily, declined the request for original copies of GUARD’s report, referring us instead to the electronic version of the document uploaded to the website of the Defence Department. Extraordinary in the context of the amounts that have been paid to Glasgow University for conducting the investigation thus far when Chris Bryett and his team of internationally recognized forensic and recovery specialists in the group known as Recovering Overseas Australia’s Missing (ROAM), were prepared to do the work without cost to the nation.

Both e-mails are incorporated below as is the snail mail from Warren Snowdon’s Chief of Staff, Kim Isaacs. In addition to directing Fromelles Discussion Group affiliates, friends and supporters to www.defence.gov.au/fromelles/summary.htm for the purposes of downloading a copy of the pdf file previously mentioned, Isaacs also informed us the Minister has decided to upload a copy of the initial non-invasive survey report and directed us to the tender notice relating to the trial dig, which is also available for perusal and public comment.

A link to the Data Structure Report can be found under the Discussion Paper on this subject in the QUICK GUIDE to the left.

The Hon. Warren Snowdon MP, Minister for Defence Science and Personnel, Australian Government:

E-mail to Minister Snowden

Mr Nick Warner, Secretary of Defence, Office of the Secretary, Department of Defence:

E-mail to Secretary Warner

Facsimile of a typewritten communication from Kim Isaacs, Chief of Staff, The Office of The Hon Warren Snowdon MP, Minister for Defence Science and Personel, dated 9 February 2009:

Response from Minister Snowden's Office Response from Minister Snowden's Office
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